Seaborn Hall, 9/28/19, updated 5:35 pct
CS Commentary and Evaluation:
There are several possible perspectives on the above prophetic words – words that seem to contradict other voices we feature on this site (see below in Editor’s Choice, and more recent posts in the Archives back through July 2019 and before).
The first perspective is that the words, largely positive for America, are alternative possibilities that could take place over the short to medium term if – and we want to emphasize that if – Christians in America rise up in prayer and repentance and turn away, at least temporarily, what others have described as God’s intent to judge America. Or, they could look at the long, long term, after a judgment and involve some degree of mixture and mis-interpretation regarding timing.
A second perspective is that these words, all of which appear to be lower level prophetic words or voices, are compromised or corrupted by soulish influences and/or misinterpretation. We are not saying this is true, only suggesting it as one possible perspective. What do we mean by ‘lower level prophetic voices?’ See Evaluating Prophets and Prophecy and the items in the sidebar on the Spiritual Life Page: What is Prophecy? Criteria For Levels, etc.
A third perspective is that some or all of these prophecies are false prophetic voices. This last perspective may seem like a harsh one to some readers, so we want to make clear that we are not calling those like Charles Shamp false prophets, only offering this as one optional choice for reconciling the differences between more positive ‘prophets’ and prophetic voices like Terry Bennett, Neville Johnson, Sadhu Selvaraj and others who can appear or sound more ‘negative’ – but whom we view as genuine prophetic voices.
But, it is worth noting that in the Old Testament – as we have noted other places – false prophets were always the voices closest to the King and the ‘marketplace.’ They were always the most ‘popular’ voices. They were always the ones known as ‘prophets.’ Consistently they were also the ones that consistently prophesied a ‘positive’ report to the people. Genuine prophets, like Jeremiah, for example, were considered too ‘negative.’ They were rarely accepted by the king, unless the king was exceptionally godly, like David, Hezekiah, and Josiah. They usually endured banishments and isolation and even death threats (see Elijah and Elisha in 1-2 Kings). They were thrown in prison and rarely popular among the majority of the people.
How did false prophets become so popular? Obviously, they must have ‘proved’ themselves by having many of their ‘words’ come true and by having real insights into the people and times. This ability gave them access to the king and the powerful. How? Perhaps at times by God, but eventually by false spirits (see 1 Kings 22).
A great example of a false prophet that apparently wasn’t even aware that he was a false prophet is in 1 Kings 22: “Then Zedekiah the son of Chenaanah came near and struck Micaiah on the cheek and said, “How did the Spirit of the LORD pass from me to speak to you?”
(1 Kings 22:24 NAS95)” Micaiah’s response is that he will know when he goes into an ‘inner room to hide himself.’ Many times it takes removing yourself from the platform and the marketplace to separate yourself from contamination and to hear the real voice of God. True prophets will bear this characteristic, perhaps above, but certainly among, others.
The last perspective is relative to Kim Clement’s prophecy alone. This prophecy and commentary on it has been featured elsewhere on this site in previous posts and on the Kim Clement page found in the archives or the link below. Clement, who is no longer with us, was one of the first if not the first to prophesy of Trump’s Presidency and has proved himself an accurate prophetic voice.
Elsewhere we have said that we believe this prophecy is not for Trump but for a future American President. We still believe that. Note the phrase, ‘He will restore the fortunes in this nation.” And before that phrase in the prophecy is a description of the nation being judged and desolate. In our opinion, this prophecy is not for the present but for a much later time in America, after judgment and relates to God’s heart and promise to restore the nation and make, at least a remnant in it, strong again. Confusing the prophecy may be that there are other time elements relating to the present season mixed in. ‘Impeach’, though it seems to relate to now, may relate to the later President as well. Just one thing that makes this likely – and that the prophecy does not relate to Trump – is that the man ‘gold’ will be a humble man who speaks few words. Neither are characteristics of the current President – and that is not to suggest anything negative about the President, whom CS has supported and endorsed since well before the California Primary of 2016.
Again, CS would not label any of the above prophetic voices as ‘false prophets’ but without doubt there is much of prophetic ministry today that does not have a genuine ring to it and may be false or soulish on some level. For the most part we leave it up to the individual believer to judge for themselves which is which, but offer these comments to help you measure your own opinions. “Do not despise prophetic utterances. But examine everything carefully; hold fast to what is good.” (1 Thessalonians 5:19-21)